Gun Shop Observations: SIG P365 and Ruger PC Carbine

Heading home from a meeting on the other side of town I stopped off for a bite to eat and also took a few extra minutes to browse at one of the local gun stores. I generally just go and drool over the Colt Snake guns they have in a special cabinet at the end of the counter. Guns I would love to have but never will unless Wonderful Wife wins me the lottery.

SIG SAUER P365

Further down the counter another customer was looking at the new P365 from SIG. Given that I am already pretty investing in both the Glock 42 and Glock 43 and the fact that I have pretty much transitioned into carrying either the LCR or the Airweight I was interested in this new choice but not overly so. Nevertheless, it was already out so I decided to go ahead and give it a feel as well.

Wow!

First, this thing is tiny. To be honest it is far more comparable in size and feel to the Glock 42 than the 43. It really does feel more like a little .380 than a 9mm, especially a 9mm with ten rounds on tap.

Second, SIG has done a great job of making this little guy feel really good in the hand (your results may vary). The shape of the backstrap especially the palm swell and the cutouts below the trigger and at the top of the backstrap really help. Between the texture and shape of the grip it feels small but also feels like it would be really easy to control recoil.

The trigger feels just about the same as the P320 (which most people like) so as long as the recoil is not too extreme this should be a fantastic shooter. I would love to get one out to the range sometime soon.

The only concern I would have is that the texture that adds to the sense of control might be a bit of a challenge when carrying concealed. It could catch on clothing and rub uncomfortably on any exposed skin.

All I can say is if you are in the market for a small concealed carry semi, the P365 should be on your short list.

Ruger PC Carbine

This is one of the recently released firearms that I have been most excited about. I love the idea of a pistol caliber carbine from a preparedness perspective. I also like the idea of being able to practice with a less expensive round. The fact that Ruger released this as a take-down model that could be configured to take Glock magazines was a double plus bonus. So, to say that I was excited to handle one in the gun store was a bit of an understatement.

Wow!

This little sucker is heavy. I never realized that this is a seven pound rifle (6.8 actually) before being loaded up with ammo or any extra spacers in the stock. My Ruger American Ranch Rifle in 7.62×39 weighs in at only a few ounces more than that with the scope and sling!

The extra weight means the recoil from this little rifle should be pretty minimal but when I think of a pistol caliber carbine I think of something a good bit lighter and handier. The rifle is well balanced with most of the weight towards the rear of the little rifle but still…

The fellow who was looking at the P365 walked up as I was handling the PC Carbine. The look on his face when I handed it to him probably mirrored mine when I picked it up. His immediate comment was “Wow, that’s a lot heavier than I thought it would be.” Which is exactly what I said.

To be honest, although they are not semi-autos, this makes the Ruger 77/357 (5.5 lbs) and Henry Big Boy Steel Carbine (6.5 lbs) look a whole lot more attractive. They are a little more expensive than the PC Carbine and shoot more expensive (.38/.357) ammo but they are a lot lighter and are consistent with the calibers I am currently carrying.

Conclusions

Bottom line, gun store fondling does not translate into real world shootability. I would still like to get the Ruger PC Carbine out on the range and after handling it I would like to get a P365 out on the range as well. The PC Carbine dropped down from “I really want one” to “maybe” on by firearm wish list. The P365 jumped up to a “cautious maybe” from a “nah, don’t really need it.”

Take care and God bless!

5 thoughts on “Gun Shop Observations: SIG P365 and Ruger PC Carbine

  1. I have handled neither and am not interested in either. I wonder if the grip texture on the 365 is similar to the grip texture on my Shield 45acp? I really like this Shield, but I may end up putting some Talon grips on it because the OEM texture is extremely grabby.

    Joe

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